CoolBrands founder Maarten Schäfer interviewed keynote speaker and futurist Igor Beuker – “Everyone wants innovation, no one wants to change.”

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Maarten Schäfer: I’m in midtown Manhattan… on my way to a roundtable discussion about innovation. I pick up an espresso at a local coffee place, which I pay for with Apple-pay on my phone. I order a car with my Uber app and check my email during the ride.

After a 15-minute drive, I exit the car and recheck the address of my meeting on Google maps. “347 Madison Avenue…” This avenue has some of the world’s most upscale boutiques… and is of course, famous because of the American television series about the advertisement industry. The phrase “Mad Men” is a slang term coined in the 1950s by advertisers working on Madison Avenue to refer to themselves.

While crossing the street, Igor Beuker comes to mind… with his signature story ‘Mad Men vs. Math Men’.

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Mad Men vs. Math Men – About Foresight, Leadership, Mindset, Culture, and DNA

I recently learned that his talk Mad Men vs. Math Men has transformed into a TV show, with Igor as the host. Add to that that he writes for Business Insider, is a Rolling Stone Culture Council member, and that he regularly sees trends that he ‘spotted’, become real.

You can see some of his latest talks and stories here.

“Why don’t I give him a call,” I think to myself, “maybe he can give me some insights.”

Google Hangouts puts me in direct contact with Igor.

“Great to hear from you, I’m actually invited to speak at a marketing conference in New York next month,” Igor says, “so, what’s up?”

“Well, I’m on my way to attend a discussion about business innovation, and I would like your view on some statements. Do you have a few minutes?”

“Sure, sounds like fun, shoot!” Igor replies.

“Okay, here we go,” I say, “let’s start with one of your own phrases, just to get you going. Mad Men vs Math Men… what can you say about that?”

“Here is the short version,” Igor starts. “Mad Men are the people who have become world players based on advertising and old business models. The Math Men are strategic thinkers and entrepreneurs who believe innovation is the way to survival and growth. They believe in the power of digital transformation, which will create new opportunities for your business.”

Mad Men vs. Math Men - Igor Beuker's award-winning marketing innovation framework and most popular keynote speech.

Part of the Mad Men vs. Math Men framework to coin trend-driven innovation.


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“Great…,” I say, “And what about Digital Darwinism?”

“Survival of the fittest… adapt or die!” Igor exclaims. “Large companies underestimate the impact and pace with which this digital revolution is taking place. Companies that think that a new commercial or a new website will do the job will not survive.

“Interesting, here’s another one: The fourth industrial revolution.”


Igor waits a few seconds before answering. “We stand on the brink of a technological revolution that will fundamentally alter the way we live, work and relate to one another,” he says with a serious voice. “In its scale, scope, and complexity, the transformation will be unlike anything humankind has experienced before.

“I see it as my duty to challenge companies, provide them with a realistic scenario, a forecast of where their company will be in 5 years from now. The first reaction is disbelief and denial. But after I show them numbers, facts, and examples of their peers….they slowly get on board and realize the sense of urgency.”

“Do you see yourself as a ‘Rebel with a Cause’?”

“My way of working is challenging,” Igor replies, “confronting – saving nothing and nobody. I share my knowledge and experience to help companies to prevent from catastrophes. To achieve this goal, I can not be Mr. Nice Guy. I have to be bold and direct.


Advertising May Win Quarters, Innovation Wins Decades

”The main message I want to convey is that ‘everyone wants innovation, nobody wants to change. It’s a matter of mindset, culture, and DNA. Only 2% of the people feel happy outside their comfort zone, but that’s where the magic really happens.”

“We all know that human beings are change-averse. However, in this time of the 4th industrial revolution, there simply is no way to avoid change. And if you keep resisting, you resist progress, and innovation, and hence you endanger your own survival.”

“Now taking a helicopter view, why are you doing all this? You have made your success, you have earned your stripes, what drives you?“

“Great question, thought you’d never ask,” Igor says with a big smile. “Actually, everything I have done and will do originates in my deeply rooted belief in the power of education. I believe that education breeds progress.

People like Nelson Mandela and Malala Yousafzai inspire me to do my part, to learn and share what I’ve learned. That’s what will bring the world to the next level.”

“Cool,” I say, “thanks for sharing these insights and your purpose with me. If you don’t mind, I’ll use the insights in my next meeting.”

Read more CoolBrands stories with Igor Beuker:

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About the Author

In the spotlights, Igor Beuker is a top marketing innovation keynote speaker and futurist known for his foresight on trends and technologies that impact business, economy, and society. Behind the scenes, a serial entrepreneur with 5 exits and an angel investor in 24 social startups. Board member at next-level media firms, changemaker at Rolling Stone Culture Council, Hollywood sci-fi think tank pioneer, award-winning marketing strategist for Amazon, L’Oréal, Nike, and a seer for Fortune 500s, cities, and countries.